Auto-detect locates and highlights the components. As a side note, the derive functionality is also used for mirrored parts, substitute Level of Detail parts and simplified parts. Is this possible? The trouble I can see is that an assembly is released, while some of the parts (shared by multiple assemblies) are still being worked on. The whole thing was rather painless, and a good enough workflow for my needs. Sketches that are not shared or consumed by features are included in the base component. Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum. While saving select option as surface. You can create a derived part using a part, assembly (not in LT), sheet metal part, or weldment. i have found why my steps had connectivity to assembly, because when i imported them i kept reference model on. Excludes element in the derived part. The element renaming follows this pattern: Surface body nodes are renamed "Srf1", "Srf2", and so on, and Surface feature nodes are renamed "Surface1", "Surface2", and so on. Select or hover over "File" then select "Save As." Add Tip Ask Question Download Step 20: Save Assembly However, there is another option which may obscure the request. Step 1: Open Inventor and import assemblies from SOLIDWORKS actual assembly and allowed modifications. Creates a single solid body derived part with seams between planar faces. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Hope you understand the issue here and maybe it is more or less only needed when using Vault and released files. Go to Solution. Change the part a bit so it gets dirtied (also assembly will get dirtied). I notice that when I save the .iam file, it saves all its referenced parts to my User/Documents/Inventor folder instead of the same folder as where I am saving the .iam file. Solution: Within the Autodesk Inventor Assembly To use the Shrinkwrap process which is described in this article on how to create a Shrinkwrap part: Use the Pack and Go functionality for this within inventor! When you click Create and select a plane on which to sketch, the part environment is activated. What I can remember is that the Mass property shown is stored on two different places internally and there sometimes it goes wrong. If this solved your issue please mark thisposting "Accept as Solution". How can I save the assembly to a folder, and have it save all it's referenced parts/assemblies to that folder as well in a way where I don't have to go back and fix the references? Click Options to specify the representations to use in the derived component and then click OK to close the File Open Options dialog box. For PDM workflow purpose, I suggest the files to be prompted to save, so that the Vault always has the latest and greatest version of the files. This option allows the part to resize or change position if the constraining parameters or components change. I'm assuming you're doing this in VBA. The bounding box updates to reflect changes in the derived component or in the base component. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. To edit the simplified substitute: To translate this article, select a language. When the command starts the active model state, design view, and position view populate the Initial State group. Create a Simplified Part from an Assembly The Simplify command creates either a derived solid or a derived surface composite part from an assembly. Only iMates for top-level assemblies may be derived. Solution: Running a clean uninstall of Inventor 2022 or uninstalling/reinstalling the update (s) typically doesn't resolve the problem. And, the assemblies will need to be recomputed. Success! As we all know, geometry is all stored in individual ipt files and it is where the mass is computed based on the geometry. To translate this article, select a language. Is it possible to convert an assembly into a parts file? Position. This is very helpful when for example, dealing with printed circuit board assemblies. There are many other application options that have similarconsequences! Select Remove All Internal Voids to fill all internal void shells in the derived solid body part. If some settings could be changed only by admin, that would be great in Inventor! Navigate to the SAT. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Changes in design views do not affect envelope size. This is the default option. If the Update Physical Properties on Save options is turned on, the affected files should be prompted to save. This in Inventor world is called "Demoting". Creates a derived part with a single surface body. Presets assign values to the fields further in the property panel. The Assembly node is renamed to Assembly1. Inventor will create an entirely new Assembly, and will create all the new components on disk while creating all the new file paths (hyperlinks) inside the Assembly file. Go to Solution. At the component instance level, you can override the structure to be Reference. today we are see how to export all parts & format any assembly watch it open file (Assembly) goto menu click to save as select pack and go select destination folder (path like:. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. The elements under the Solid Bodies or Surface Bodies folders. In the property panel, modify any of the following as needed: Initial State - select a different model state, design view, or position view, Components - include or exclude additional parts, Features - add or refine the parameters for features being removed. I know from the title it might look like I just want to create a subassembly from parts already in an assembly, but it's a little more complicated than that. If possible, I would like to see examples. If required, click Select from Base to allow graphical selection of components from the base component window. I think you are correct on that one. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. RMB on the derive node in the model browser and select "Suppress Link" to temporally break the part's dependency on the assembly file. Creating an in-place part has the same result as inserting a previously created part file. Click Tools > Options > System Options > Assemblies and select or clear Save new components to external files. Using the project command select the feature edges wanted in the part file. From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. Can't find what you're looking for? Let me walk through the process of updating mass prop. I see a real big progress in the newest version of Inventor of course, regarding the application options. Items marked with this symbol are ignored in updates to the derived part. If we have update everything, all files will have mass, but if we change some low level part, all structure above will have to be computed to get the new mass. See step 7 below. We have "Recomputable update" set to yes. Can't find what you're looking for? Dec 5, 2012 #4 Karol Member For a Vault environment this is called a Dirty Maker and is frustrating enough to update everytime. Ask the community or share your knowledge. Try it for yourself-- I just did. Will this have any affect on saving as a new subassembly? In principle every feature; Option and tool that is available in Inventor should work with no problem in a Vault Environmenttoo. Select the Hole patching options if required. Creates a multi-body part that retains selected components as individual solid bodies. Accept the default or use the Status buttons at the top to change the status of all selected objects quickly. All the components must be at the same level within a single parent assembly. Also if the file is already released this mass is alwasys written tot the part or assembly without checking if the file is editable in Vault terms. save the assembly as SAT file using Save Copy As. From the Assembly tab. At assembly level, the mass is aggregated from the parts (per quantity per Reference). Items marked with this symbol are ignored in updates to the derived part. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. So, what I think you are asking is to take various parts from certain sub-assemblies and marry them together to formulate yet a different sub-assembly? When I use the Shrinkwrap feature, it turns everything into surfaces. (I already tried all 'Save As', 'Save Copy As', Export', etc options). You can create a part or assembly while working in an existing assembly. Can't find what you're looking for? For part instances the instance number is iterated which yields "Part1:1", "Part1:2", and so on. Virtual components are considered and treated as real components for all practical purposes. When accessed from the BIM Content environment, theOutput Type is locked to Substitute. If a sketch is active when you create the part, click Return to close the sketch. I've only been using Inventor for a few months but have rapidly grown to like it. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Click the Associative option to link the simplified model to the design view. Go to Tools -> App Options -> Save -> "Mass Prop Update", "Implicit Update", or "Recomputable Update" -> set it to Yes. Use the Simplify command to reduce the content within an assembly by removing components, features, and output a simplified part file. I'm open to suggestions for doing this another way, I just need a way to create an exploded view from components already in place but in separate assemblies. Then, I have to fix all the references. Click Open to close the Open dialog box. A derived assembly (not in LT) component originates from an assembly file and may contain parts, subassemblies, and derived parts. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2016, Inventor 2016, & Product Design Suite 2016. Begin selecting parts or components in the canvas. It's just what you're after, I think. I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. I need to search again for it but I am sure the mass is first written internally to the assembly and the part before it is written to the Physical Property, and there it goes wrong. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. What exactly do you mean by "a solid body where I can't change anything?" Go to Solution. More is the case that also if the file is not updated and already released, it will write the mass to calculate. One idea I had was to save copies of subassembly A and subassembly B. Select the options to bring it in as Solids and as a multi-body part or a composite, as needed. Inventor Pro 2022.2.1 | Windows 10 Home 21H2, Mine steps has connectivity i dont know why, my step files some times need whole assebly in order to resolve the components, i an not using vault though. A STL file approximates the original model using mesh geometry. It is because the feature recipes and the parameters are already captured (saved), the mass prop can be evaluated when the geometry becomes up-to-date. From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. If you must relocate the part later, you can delete the constraint. I forgot to mention a couple things which was rather stupid, because they are important details. This is a known issue for a long time already in Inventor (at least since 2012 of Inventor). Lets say you have found a cad file on google somewhere that you want to be using in your modell, lets say it is an assembly, and you want it to save as a file without connection to anyfiles, if you save it as step or as simplyfy parts even with braket link you still need the whole assembly to drag arround in order to open a single part, and if you want to move it to another map you need to drag all the assemblies part, what i do now i make simple part and then save as STL file in order to completely delite link to the assembly out of this world. Use update2 document iLogic command. Check you have setting properly set "Update physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies)". Selects component for inclusion in the derived part. Go to Solution. If the component does not intersect the derived part, the result is no solid. Going back to the original Derived Component idea, you can Suppress Link or even Break Link with the original. Also, any assembly consuming the part will have N/A. It seems that we have two different issues here. Then you should have addressed your concern to the OP, not to me. SolidWork Newbie since 2001-Currently using SW2017 Inventor Newbie since 2019 You can even give multiple Kudos. If required, select the check box to keep seams between planar faces. Hey, yes and no. I know that we as person/generation are asking every time more, but on the other hand the software resellers promise us also more every time! If you save twice, it works. By: To access: Right-click the file name in the Autodesk Inventor browser or Windows Explorer, and select iProperties. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. Regards, Igor. To my opinion it should either work in Inventor and In an environment with Vault to. Descibe the final use of your "a solid body where I can't change anything". Go to Solution. There's little point in having lots of functionality if it doesn't give value. If you save the assembly again (without save dialog for multiple files), it will update the mass with no problem. Hi i did that it didnt work. Select features, bodies, surfaces, visible 2D and 3D sketches, work features, parameters, and iMates to include or exclude from the derived part. Check you have setting properly set "Update physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies)" Create the new empty assembly and save it. If the App options is not turned on, the mass of such part will show N/A. Is it possible to save an assembly and all dependant parts to one single new location ? Perhaps you need a dwf or pdf representation. Can't find what you're looking for? Report 1 Like Reply Message 3 of 7 cwhetten in reply to: JavaLodge Continue selecting remaining components as needed to exclude them from the simplified part. You can select more then one posting as the solution. I have all files unlocked (ready to be worked on), I shape them as I please, which is OK, then I want to save on TOP assembly, but it does not update the mass of it, eventhough all below assemblies get the mass and also the part. Recommendation: Position and mate at least one of the components before you begin, then select that component first. In case any of this information is needed, I use: Solved by Curtis_Waguespack. Disable "Update physical properties on save". Save assembly (and all parts involved) to specific location using API I'm possibly having a basic misunderstanding of how to correctly save an Inventor file with the API. Glad you joined us from lurking in the shadows. After you select the components, click Accept Selection. If you prefer, you can make the constraint adaptive by setting an option on the Assembly tab of the Application Options dialog box. Is there a way I can override that so the parts wont be updated? Creates the smallest file on disk. When I've had a need to do something like this, I simply create a new subassembly_C in the top level assembly, and then save the top level assembly. Check out the derived part tool. You can override any value. Step 19: Save As The hard part is over, the assembly has been made and you've just added a new skill to your tool belt! Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. Later the parts are updated. If unchecked, the appearance is set to default appearance of the target part. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. i have the same issue, but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated. Create and save your assembly Open a new part file Select the Derive tool in the Create section of the 3D Model ribbon Navigate to your saved assembly file on disk Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. If the subtracted component intersects with the part, the result is a cavity. Go to Solution. I tried that tool but that's not what I wanted to do. There is only one BOM per assembly. Thanks for pointing out new information, but I think this is a different issue. ). save assembly and all parts ? The .Save2 will save without a confirmation prompt, unlike .Save. I tried using pack and go on an assembly. Intersects the selected component with the derived part. Can't find what you're looking for? All other situations are more or less not that critical. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Legacy shrinkwrapped parts use the Simplify property panel when edited. What I did was save this assembly a new one, and then delete everything I didn't need. Do not sell or share my personal information. Whenever a part geometry is changed, the mass will need to be recomputed. (Suppressed components are excluded; this cannot be changed. When the command starts the active model state, design view, and position view populate the Initial State group. In the Open dialog box, browse to the assembly file (.iam) to use as the base component. Unfortunately, we cannot have both. whole assembly will be saved as a single part. What I need is to take some parts from subassembly A, some parts from subassembly B, and save those parts as a completely new assembly C. I don't want the assembly->subassembly relationship in the original file to be affected, I just want to create a new subassemly file without having to place and constrain all the individual parts again. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Creates a derived part as a single surface composite which retains the appearance of the original components. If you want to create a multi-body part file, create one or more features or bodies. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. Once you have your subassembly C, you can delete the two messed-up copies of subs A and B, and delete the temporary assembly you used to perform the promote and demote functions. One more thing is that the mass is also written even if the file is read-only, and that is not correct if you use a release process. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. It is the equivalent to a custom part in a parts list. If you browse to the folder where you are saving the copy of your Assembly, you will see all the little parts being created. 20. As you select options, other options that are invalid are hidden. They have a browser representation, have properties such as quantity, BOM Structure, Part Number, and so on. Verify that you have selected needed bodies, sketches, work geometry, parameters, and representations, and then click OK.